1 00:00:06,528 --> 00:00:08,443 - In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:08,486 --> 00:00:09,748 sexually based offenses 3 00:00:09,792 --> 00:00:11,794 are considered especially heinous. 4 00:00:11,837 --> 00:00:14,318 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 5 00:00:14,362 --> 00:00:16,190 who investigate these vicious felonies 6 00:00:16,233 --> 00:00:17,539 are members of an elite squad 7 00:00:17,582 --> 00:00:19,671 known as the Special Victims Unit. 8 00:00:19,715 --> 00:00:21,543 These are their stories. 9 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:24,633 - My dad used to have an expression. 10 00:00:24,676 --> 00:00:27,462 He said, "The greatest sin any person can commit 11 00:00:27,505 --> 00:00:29,507 is the abuse of power." 12 00:00:29,551 --> 00:00:31,727 And the greatest abuse of power 13 00:00:31,770 --> 00:00:33,642 was rape. 14 00:00:33,685 --> 00:00:36,210 It takes a woman a long time to heal. 15 00:00:36,253 --> 00:00:39,082 And when the victim isn't believed, 16 00:00:39,126 --> 00:00:40,692 when she goes through the invasive process 17 00:00:40,736 --> 00:00:43,521 of having a rape kit put together, 18 00:00:43,565 --> 00:00:45,523 and then it's stuck on a shelf somewhere-- 19 00:00:45,567 --> 00:00:49,353 and then the rape kit is never, ever tested-- 20 00:00:49,397 --> 00:00:50,572 we fail. 21 00:00:50,615 --> 00:00:51,790 We fail her. 22 00:00:51,834 --> 00:00:54,358 We fail so many women. 23 00:00:54,402 --> 00:00:57,753 I'm proud to say today we did not fail. 24 00:00:57,796 --> 00:01:00,669 Thanks to the dedicated efforts of law enforcement, 25 00:01:00,712 --> 00:01:01,800 the whole legal system, 26 00:01:01,844 --> 00:01:03,585 the victim's advocacy groups, 27 00:01:03,628 --> 00:01:06,153 and particularly my friend here, 28 00:01:06,196 --> 00:01:09,808 Lieutenant Olivia Benson of SVU, 29 00:01:09,852 --> 00:01:11,114 congratulations, Lieutenant. 30 00:01:11,158 --> 00:01:12,202 [applause] 31 00:01:12,246 --> 00:01:14,378 - Thank you. Thank you. 32 00:01:14,422 --> 00:01:16,424 Mr. Vice President, we are so honored 33 00:01:16,467 --> 00:01:18,469 to stand here today with you 34 00:01:18,513 --> 00:01:20,602 to announce that in beginning to clear 35 00:01:20,645 --> 00:01:22,647 the national rape kit backlog, 36 00:01:22,691 --> 00:01:25,172 we have taken rapists off the streets. 37 00:01:25,215 --> 00:01:26,738 We have prevented future crimes. 38 00:01:26,782 --> 00:01:28,914 We have given victims closure. 39 00:01:28,958 --> 00:01:33,223 And we have also righted a terrible wrong. 40 00:01:33,267 --> 00:01:35,312 16 years ago, 41 00:01:35,356 --> 00:01:37,358 Sean Roberts was convicted of a rape 42 00:01:37,401 --> 00:01:40,361 here in New York City that he did not commit. 43 00:01:40,404 --> 00:01:43,668 By processing an untested rape kit in Detroit, 44 00:01:43,712 --> 00:01:47,759 we were able to identify the real rapist 45 00:01:47,803 --> 00:01:49,283 and set Sean free. 46 00:01:49,326 --> 00:01:50,588 [applause] 47 00:01:50,632 --> 00:01:53,635 [camera shutters clicking] 48 00:01:55,811 --> 00:01:58,683 - I want to thank everyone who tested the kits. 49 00:01:58,727 --> 00:02:00,685 I've only been out of prison for a month, 50 00:02:00,729 --> 00:02:02,774 but it already feels like a second chance at life. 51 00:02:02,818 --> 00:02:05,429 I bear no ill will towards Melanie Harper. 52 00:02:05,473 --> 00:02:07,562 She's as much a victim as I am in this. 53 00:02:07,605 --> 00:02:09,781 This is a fresh start for me, 54 00:02:09,825 --> 00:02:12,610 Melanie, and her daughter, Ashley. 55 00:02:12,654 --> 00:02:14,525 - We're looking forward to the next chapter. 56 00:02:14,569 --> 00:02:16,310 - And my mother and I want to make amends-- 57 00:02:16,353 --> 00:02:18,181 have Sean in our lives. 58 00:02:18,225 --> 00:02:19,269 I'm getting married next month. 59 00:02:19,313 --> 00:02:20,618 I've invited Sean to the wedding. 60 00:02:20,662 --> 00:02:22,490 - Thank you. 61 00:02:25,232 --> 00:02:27,538 Thank you for everything. 62 00:02:27,582 --> 00:02:30,498 - Seems like you've all gotten close. 63 00:02:30,541 --> 00:02:32,543 - I'm just glad that Sean's forgiven me. 64 00:02:32,587 --> 00:02:34,458 - It was a honest mistake, Melanie. 65 00:02:34,502 --> 00:02:36,678 At the time, you were sure it was him. 66 00:02:36,721 --> 00:02:37,766 - I was wrong. 67 00:02:37,809 --> 00:02:39,724 We were both wrong. 68 00:02:39,768 --> 00:02:41,378 - You ready to go, Mom? - Yeah. 69 00:02:41,422 --> 00:02:43,554 - Last time I saw you, you were six years old. 70 00:02:43,598 --> 00:02:45,208 Now you're getting married. Congratulations. 71 00:02:45,252 --> 00:02:46,601 - Thank you. 72 00:02:46,644 --> 00:02:48,516 - We're taking Sean out for his birthday tonight. 73 00:02:48,559 --> 00:02:50,692 - It's the first time I can legally drink. 74 00:02:50,735 --> 00:02:53,651 - Well, have fun, and... 75 00:02:53,695 --> 00:02:55,392 stay safe. 76 00:02:56,611 --> 00:02:57,699 - Bye. 77 00:03:02,530 --> 00:03:04,619 - You okay with all this? - I'm good. 78 00:03:04,662 --> 00:03:06,360 I'm just glad he's out of jail. 79 00:03:06,403 --> 00:03:08,275 - [exhales] 80 00:03:08,318 --> 00:03:09,537 Me too. 81 00:03:11,278 --> 00:03:12,235 - [sighs softly] 82 00:03:12,279 --> 00:03:15,369 - Thank you. - Okay, yeah, um... 83 00:03:15,412 --> 00:03:18,372 [dark music] 84 00:03:18,415 --> 00:03:21,244 ♪ 85 00:03:21,288 --> 00:03:22,854 - Detective Tutuola. 86 00:03:22,898 --> 00:03:24,291 - Melanie Harper asked for me? 87 00:03:24,334 --> 00:03:25,901 - Inside. She's a mess. 88 00:03:25,944 --> 00:03:26,945 - What are we looking at? 89 00:03:26,989 --> 00:03:27,990 - Mother was sleeping, 90 00:03:28,033 --> 00:03:29,513 smelled smoke, called it in. 91 00:03:29,557 --> 00:03:31,733 Girl was raped, strangled, 92 00:03:31,776 --> 00:03:34,649 stabbed, doused in bleach, burned. 93 00:03:34,692 --> 00:03:41,308 ♪ 94 00:03:41,351 --> 00:03:42,787 - Okay, Momma's here. Momma's here, okay? 95 00:03:42,831 --> 00:03:44,267 Okay, it's gonna be okay. 96 00:03:44,311 --> 00:03:45,529 We're going to the hospital. It's gonna be-- 97 00:03:45,573 --> 00:03:46,617 - Melanie, what happened? 98 00:03:46,661 --> 00:03:47,792 - Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 99 00:03:47,836 --> 00:03:50,360 I came down and I-- I found her like this. 100 00:03:50,404 --> 00:03:52,275 - Did you see anything or hear anybody? 101 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:53,407 - Here, I'm right here. 102 00:03:53,450 --> 00:03:54,451 I heard a man. 103 00:03:54,495 --> 00:03:55,670 - Did you recognize his voice? 104 00:03:55,713 --> 00:03:57,324 - [panting] 105 00:03:57,367 --> 00:03:59,326 I think it was Sean. 106 00:03:59,369 --> 00:04:01,545 ♪ 107 00:04:01,589 --> 00:04:02,938 - Sean Roberts? 108 00:04:02,981 --> 00:04:04,940 The guy we just got out of prison? 109 00:04:04,983 --> 00:04:07,377 - Yeah. 110 00:04:07,421 --> 00:04:08,900 [siren wailing] 111 00:04:08,944 --> 00:04:11,251 ♪ 112 00:04:13,427 --> 00:04:16,386 [dramatic music] 113 00:04:16,430 --> 00:04:23,437 ♪ 114 00:05:00,038 --> 00:05:02,432 - Ashley Harper was raped and stabbed, 115 00:05:02,476 --> 00:05:04,086 and you think that Sean Roberts is involved in this--how? 116 00:05:04,129 --> 00:05:06,262 - Well, Melanie said she heard Sean's voice 117 00:05:06,306 --> 00:05:07,785 in the house. 118 00:05:07,829 --> 00:05:09,874 - Well, we know that they went out together last night. 119 00:05:09,918 --> 00:05:11,093 Did you talk to him yet? 120 00:05:11,136 --> 00:05:12,442 - Well, considering the history, 121 00:05:12,486 --> 00:05:13,835 we figured we should talk to you first. 122 00:05:13,878 --> 00:05:15,880 - Okay, all right. 123 00:05:15,924 --> 00:05:18,492 So what do we have? 124 00:05:18,535 --> 00:05:20,972 - Um, there's no sign of forced entry, 125 00:05:21,016 --> 00:05:23,584 so Ashley probably did know her attacker, 126 00:05:23,627 --> 00:05:25,455 and there's a kitchen knife that's missing. 127 00:05:25,499 --> 00:05:27,152 - CSU's running the scene. 128 00:05:27,196 --> 00:05:29,372 Whoever did this, they used bleach on her, 129 00:05:29,416 --> 00:05:30,460 they burned her-- 130 00:05:30,504 --> 00:05:31,940 got rid of all DNA. 131 00:05:31,983 --> 00:05:32,941 - Who else was in her life? 132 00:05:32,984 --> 00:05:34,116 She just got engaged, right? 133 00:05:34,159 --> 00:05:35,204 - Right, we're tracking down her fiancé, 134 00:05:35,247 --> 00:05:36,336 and we're going through her texts, 135 00:05:36,379 --> 00:05:37,598 we're going through her social media. 136 00:05:37,641 --> 00:05:40,165 - Okay, so run down every single angle. 137 00:05:40,209 --> 00:05:43,299 Uh, security cams in the house-- in the neighborhood. 138 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,649 Traffic cams. Canvass the neighbors. 139 00:05:45,693 --> 00:05:47,303 We need to be sure 140 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:50,045 about every single detail on this. 141 00:05:50,088 --> 00:05:51,133 [phone buzzing] 142 00:05:51,176 --> 00:05:52,656 [sighs] 143 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:54,266 Okay, Carisi's here. 144 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:55,398 Loop him in. 145 00:05:55,442 --> 00:05:56,573 Have him talk to the fiancé. 146 00:05:56,617 --> 00:05:58,053 Rollins... 147 00:05:58,096 --> 00:06:01,186 Rollins, you talk to Sean. 148 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:02,405 - Pulling me off the case? 149 00:06:02,449 --> 00:06:04,189 - No, actually, I need to keep you on-- 150 00:06:04,233 --> 00:06:06,409 you know, optics. 151 00:06:06,453 --> 00:06:08,237 - What's that mean? 152 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:09,891 - If you step away from the case, 153 00:06:09,934 --> 00:06:11,414 it'll look like you have a-- 154 00:06:11,458 --> 00:06:13,416 something personal with Sean, right? 155 00:06:13,460 --> 00:06:15,026 Give credibility to his lawsuit. 156 00:06:15,070 --> 00:06:16,506 So just let Rollins take the lead. 157 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:18,508 - Got it. 158 00:06:18,552 --> 00:06:19,596 - [sighs] 159 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:24,514 Ms. Harper, 160 00:06:24,558 --> 00:06:25,950 I'm so sorry. 161 00:06:25,994 --> 00:06:27,387 What did the doctors say? 162 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:29,911 - She's still in surgery. 163 00:06:29,954 --> 00:06:32,000 She lost a lot of blood. 164 00:06:32,043 --> 00:06:33,349 The--the burns are-- 165 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:34,916 - It's okay. 166 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:36,918 My detectives said that 167 00:06:36,961 --> 00:06:40,574 you heard Sean Roberts' voice in your house last night? 168 00:06:40,617 --> 00:06:44,316 - Yes, um, he and Ashley were talking. 169 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,970 - Do you remember what time 170 00:06:46,014 --> 00:06:47,276 you heard them talking? 171 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:49,452 - Um, must've been about midnight. 172 00:06:49,496 --> 00:06:50,540 - Okay. 173 00:06:50,584 --> 00:06:51,628 - And I took a shower, and then I-- 174 00:06:51,672 --> 00:06:54,152 - Right. - I went to sleep. 175 00:06:54,196 --> 00:06:56,328 So...have you talked to Sean? 176 00:06:56,372 --> 00:06:58,156 I mean, maybe he saw... 177 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,680 - We're gonna talk to him. 178 00:06:59,723 --> 00:07:01,072 Listen to me. 179 00:07:01,116 --> 00:07:04,511 Ms. Harper, can you think of anyone 180 00:07:04,554 --> 00:07:06,295 who would want to hurt your daughter? 181 00:07:06,338 --> 00:07:08,384 - No. No one. 182 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:09,994 - What about the fiancé? 183 00:07:10,038 --> 00:07:10,995 Was he at the dinner? 184 00:07:11,039 --> 00:07:12,083 - Zach? No. 185 00:07:12,127 --> 00:07:13,998 No, he--he didn't like Sean. 186 00:07:14,042 --> 00:07:15,565 He and Ashley were arguing about that, so-- 187 00:07:15,609 --> 00:07:17,262 oh, I got to call him. 188 00:07:17,306 --> 00:07:19,090 [gasps] 189 00:07:19,134 --> 00:07:20,570 Oh... 190 00:07:20,614 --> 00:07:21,963 - What? 191 00:07:22,006 --> 00:07:23,530 - Ashley's engagement ring-- 192 00:07:23,573 --> 00:07:26,184 it wasn't on her finger. 193 00:07:29,274 --> 00:07:32,190 [somber music] 194 00:07:32,234 --> 00:07:35,063 ♪ 195 00:07:35,106 --> 00:07:38,109 [crying] 196 00:07:41,548 --> 00:07:43,071 [rapping on door] 197 00:07:43,114 --> 00:07:44,594 - Sean Roberts! 198 00:07:44,638 --> 00:07:46,291 ♪ 199 00:07:46,335 --> 00:07:48,598 - Maybe we waited too long, and he got spooked, ran. 200 00:07:48,642 --> 00:07:51,558 - This guy's got 30 million reasons not to leave town. 201 00:07:51,601 --> 00:07:52,689 [locks unlatching] 202 00:07:52,733 --> 00:07:54,256 - Hey, Sean. 203 00:07:54,299 --> 00:07:55,518 Can we talk to you for a minute? 204 00:07:55,562 --> 00:07:56,519 - Why? 205 00:07:56,563 --> 00:07:58,086 - Mind if we come inside? 206 00:07:58,129 --> 00:07:59,696 - Yeah, I do. 207 00:07:59,740 --> 00:08:02,264 What's this about? 208 00:08:02,307 --> 00:08:06,442 - Ashley Harper was raped and murdered last night. 209 00:08:06,486 --> 00:08:08,139 - What? 210 00:08:08,183 --> 00:08:09,619 Oh, my God. 211 00:08:09,663 --> 00:08:12,622 W-what happened? 212 00:08:12,666 --> 00:08:14,624 Ashley's dead? 213 00:08:14,668 --> 00:08:17,279 Melanie must be freaking out. I-I have to go. 214 00:08:17,322 --> 00:08:18,498 - Before--before you do, 215 00:08:18,541 --> 00:08:21,501 can we just ask you a few questions? 216 00:08:21,544 --> 00:08:23,024 - You want to talk to me? 217 00:08:23,067 --> 00:08:25,417 You don't think that I-- 218 00:08:25,461 --> 00:08:26,506 do I need a lawyer? 219 00:08:26,549 --> 00:08:27,898 - Why would you need a lawyer? 220 00:08:27,942 --> 00:08:29,334 - Anytime you talk to the cops, you need a lawyer. 221 00:08:29,378 --> 00:08:30,553 That's what you taught me. 222 00:08:30,597 --> 00:08:32,337 - Were you at Ashley's house last night? 223 00:08:32,381 --> 00:08:35,036 - No, we--we had dinner together, 224 00:08:35,079 --> 00:08:36,341 and then she left early. 225 00:08:36,385 --> 00:08:37,473 - You see her after dinner? 226 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:39,562 - No. - What time did you leave? 227 00:08:39,606 --> 00:08:41,521 - 11:00, 11:30. 228 00:08:41,564 --> 00:08:43,348 - Where'd you go? 229 00:08:43,392 --> 00:08:44,567 - Strip club. 230 00:08:44,611 --> 00:08:47,352 - Is there where you hurt your hand? 231 00:08:47,396 --> 00:08:48,440 - Yeah. - Right. 232 00:08:48,484 --> 00:08:49,572 Did you go alone? 233 00:08:49,616 --> 00:08:51,313 - No, with a buddy. 234 00:08:51,356 --> 00:08:52,488 - Ah. - A buddy. 235 00:08:52,532 --> 00:08:53,663 What kind of buddy? 236 00:08:53,707 --> 00:08:55,665 - A guy from the inside, okay? 237 00:08:55,709 --> 00:08:57,188 Jeff Nichols. 238 00:08:57,232 --> 00:08:58,668 Yeah, he was at my birthday dinner. 239 00:08:58,712 --> 00:09:00,235 He can vouch for me. - Great. 240 00:09:00,278 --> 00:09:02,193 Where can we find this Jeff? 241 00:09:02,237 --> 00:09:04,413 - Uh, Hell's Gate Diner. 242 00:09:05,675 --> 00:09:07,372 Now, if you're not gonna arrest me, 243 00:09:07,416 --> 00:09:08,504 then you need to leave, 244 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:10,550 because I need to call Melanie. 245 00:09:12,769 --> 00:09:13,727 [door closes] 246 00:09:13,770 --> 00:09:15,163 - Sure ain't helping himself. 247 00:09:15,206 --> 00:09:16,251 - Mm-mm. 248 00:09:16,294 --> 00:09:17,644 - Put a unmarked car on this block 249 00:09:17,687 --> 00:09:19,297 in case he decides to run. 250 00:09:19,341 --> 00:09:21,212 - You think he really had something to do with this? 251 00:09:21,256 --> 00:09:23,258 - I hope not. 252 00:09:24,433 --> 00:09:26,827 ♪ 253 00:09:26,870 --> 00:09:28,393 Jeff Nichols? 254 00:09:28,437 --> 00:09:29,960 - Uh-huh. 255 00:09:30,004 --> 00:09:33,398 - Were you with Sean Roberts and Ashley Harper last night? 256 00:09:33,442 --> 00:09:34,617 - Yeah. 257 00:09:34,661 --> 00:09:36,750 Yeah, after dinner, we went to the ballet 258 00:09:36,793 --> 00:09:38,142 on 10th Avenue. 259 00:09:38,186 --> 00:09:39,883 Ask the stripper-- some Russian lesbian. 260 00:09:39,927 --> 00:09:41,363 We were with her most of the night. 261 00:09:41,406 --> 00:09:42,669 - Sean told you to say that? 262 00:09:42,712 --> 00:09:44,584 - No. - Listen. 263 00:09:44,627 --> 00:09:46,629 Ashley Harper was murdered last night, 264 00:09:46,673 --> 00:09:48,196 so you're gonna need to come clean. 265 00:09:48,239 --> 00:09:49,806 - I am. I swear. 266 00:09:49,850 --> 00:09:51,286 - Listen, dude. 267 00:09:51,329 --> 00:09:53,593 You're on parole. 268 00:09:53,636 --> 00:09:54,681 Don't lie to me. 269 00:09:54,724 --> 00:09:57,727 I'll throw your ass back in prison. 270 00:10:01,209 --> 00:10:03,254 - Okay. Okay. 271 00:10:03,298 --> 00:10:06,431 Sean just called me-- begged me to vouch for him. 272 00:10:06,475 --> 00:10:07,868 Said you guys were jamming him up 273 00:10:07,911 --> 00:10:09,826 just like last time. 274 00:10:09,870 --> 00:10:11,306 - Did he even come to the club? 275 00:10:11,349 --> 00:10:12,394 - Yeah. [sighs] 276 00:10:12,437 --> 00:10:14,265 But he came late-- about 2:00. 277 00:10:14,309 --> 00:10:15,353 - Okay. 278 00:10:15,397 --> 00:10:17,791 Uh, did you notice a cut on his hand? 279 00:10:17,834 --> 00:10:19,183 - I don't remember. 280 00:10:19,227 --> 00:10:21,708 Look, all I know is, Sean would never hurt that girl. 281 00:10:21,751 --> 00:10:22,970 He adored her. 282 00:10:23,013 --> 00:10:24,754 All night, he was a shoulder for her to cry on. 283 00:10:24,798 --> 00:10:25,929 - Why was she crying? 284 00:10:25,973 --> 00:10:27,365 - Her fiancé. 285 00:10:27,409 --> 00:10:28,802 She, she--I don't know. 286 00:10:28,845 --> 00:10:31,631 He was, like, threatening to break off the engagement. 287 00:10:33,937 --> 00:10:36,287 - I can't believe Ashley's really... 288 00:10:38,855 --> 00:10:41,379 What, uh... 289 00:10:41,423 --> 00:10:42,903 what happened? 290 00:10:42,946 --> 00:10:44,208 - We're not sure. 291 00:10:44,252 --> 00:10:45,906 We were hoping you could help us out with that. 292 00:10:45,949 --> 00:10:47,255 - What are you talking about? 293 00:10:47,298 --> 00:10:50,475 - When was the last time you saw Ashley? 294 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:52,782 - Yesterday, before she went to dinner with that convict. 295 00:10:52,826 --> 00:10:54,697 - Sean Roberts. 296 00:10:54,741 --> 00:10:56,917 Let me ask, were you and Ashley 297 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,788 fighting about him? 298 00:10:58,832 --> 00:10:59,789 - What? No. 299 00:10:59,833 --> 00:11:01,835 - Ah, wrong answer. 300 00:11:01,878 --> 00:11:04,707 - 'Cause you sent half a dozen texts. 301 00:11:04,751 --> 00:11:07,318 7:10, "It's over." 302 00:11:07,362 --> 00:11:09,712 7:30, "I want my ring back." 303 00:11:09,756 --> 00:11:11,409 8:00, "I'm gonna get that ring." 304 00:11:11,453 --> 00:11:12,410 Should I go on? - No. 305 00:11:12,454 --> 00:11:13,673 - Come on, you must have known 306 00:11:13,716 --> 00:11:14,978 we were going to look through Ashley's phone. 307 00:11:15,022 --> 00:11:16,371 You see, when you lie to us, 308 00:11:16,414 --> 00:11:18,199 it makes us curious. 309 00:11:18,242 --> 00:11:21,245 - I was pissed. 310 00:11:21,289 --> 00:11:22,377 We made plans last night, 311 00:11:22,420 --> 00:11:26,250 and she blew me off for that guy Sean. 312 00:11:26,294 --> 00:11:27,338 I get it. 313 00:11:27,382 --> 00:11:29,906 He spent 16 years in prison, but-- 314 00:11:29,950 --> 00:11:32,474 and he was innocent, but that doesn't make him a saint. 315 00:11:32,517 --> 00:11:33,518 - Well, that's fair enough, 316 00:11:33,562 --> 00:11:34,781 but where were you last night-- 317 00:11:34,824 --> 00:11:37,348 after midnight? 318 00:11:37,392 --> 00:11:38,915 - I was at a bar-- Dakota Bar. 319 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:40,264 - The Dakota Bar. 320 00:11:40,308 --> 00:11:42,310 That's two blocks from Ashley's house. 321 00:11:42,353 --> 00:11:43,572 - And my apartment. 322 00:11:43,615 --> 00:11:44,791 Ask the bartender. 323 00:11:44,834 --> 00:11:46,401 I was there from midnight until closing. 324 00:11:46,444 --> 00:11:47,619 - You were there the entire time? 325 00:11:47,663 --> 00:11:51,449 Four solid hours at the bar? 326 00:11:51,493 --> 00:11:52,712 - No. - No? 327 00:11:52,755 --> 00:11:54,757 - Some girl spilled red wine on my shirt. 328 00:11:54,801 --> 00:11:56,890 I went home to change. Then I went back to the bar. 329 00:11:56,933 --> 00:12:00,241 - Oh, that's very convenient for you. 330 00:12:00,284 --> 00:12:02,243 - I didn't kill Ashley. 331 00:12:02,286 --> 00:12:03,548 ♪ 332 00:12:03,592 --> 00:12:05,768 Are you--are you guys crazy? 333 00:12:05,812 --> 00:12:08,771 I have nothing to do with this. 334 00:12:08,815 --> 00:12:10,730 - As of now, who is our main suspect, 335 00:12:10,773 --> 00:12:11,774 Sean or Zach? 336 00:12:11,818 --> 00:12:13,950 - As of now? Both. 337 00:12:13,994 --> 00:12:15,909 - Or an unknown. 338 00:12:15,952 --> 00:12:18,389 I've been searching through Ashley's social media. 339 00:12:18,433 --> 00:12:20,304 She's got a lot of male followers. 340 00:12:20,348 --> 00:12:21,392 - Okay, okay, so let's, uh... 341 00:12:21,436 --> 00:12:22,393 What do we have on Sean? 342 00:12:22,437 --> 00:12:23,743 - So, the timeline is tight. 343 00:12:23,786 --> 00:12:26,267 Ashley was attacked sometime between midnight, 344 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:27,877 when Melanie heard her voice-- 345 00:12:27,921 --> 00:12:29,531 - And Sean's voice. 346 00:12:29,574 --> 00:12:31,794 - And 1:20, when Melanie called 911. 347 00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:33,796 - Sean claims he wasn't in the house. 348 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,799 - But Sean doesn't have an alibi. 349 00:12:36,843 --> 00:12:39,802 From 11:30, when we confirmed he left the restaurant, 350 00:12:39,846 --> 00:12:42,413 to 2:05 when he arrived at the strip club. 351 00:12:42,457 --> 00:12:44,285 - And Zach doesn't have an alibi either. 352 00:12:44,328 --> 00:12:45,765 - No, actually, he does. 353 00:12:45,808 --> 00:12:47,767 The, uh, bartender at the Dakota Bar 354 00:12:47,810 --> 00:12:49,290 confirmed somebody spilled red wine on him. 355 00:12:49,333 --> 00:12:51,683 He went home to change. He was back in 15 minutes. 356 00:12:51,727 --> 00:12:52,989 - Okay. 357 00:12:53,033 --> 00:12:54,382 So back to Sean. 358 00:12:54,425 --> 00:12:55,731 - Well, we got Sean's hair at the scene, 359 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:56,819 but he's been there a lot in the past few weeks. 360 00:12:56,863 --> 00:12:57,820 There's no blood. 361 00:12:57,864 --> 00:12:58,952 - Even though he cut his hand? 362 00:12:58,995 --> 00:13:00,780 - Bleach and fire. That's the point. 363 00:13:00,823 --> 00:13:03,608 - Well, there's also the missing kitchen serrated knife, 364 00:13:03,652 --> 00:13:06,046 which the M.E. thinks could be the murder weapon. 365 00:13:06,089 --> 00:13:09,484 - Look, I know no one wants to think Sean Roberts 366 00:13:09,527 --> 00:13:10,572 is good for this-- 367 00:13:10,615 --> 00:13:11,834 - Maybe he's not. 368 00:13:11,878 --> 00:13:14,663 Just, I mean--look, two weeks ago, 369 00:13:14,706 --> 00:13:16,708 Ashley got a private DM 370 00:13:16,752 --> 00:13:18,493 from a guy named Charlie Dobkins. 371 00:13:18,536 --> 00:13:21,670 She told him to stop looking in her window and being "creepy." 372 00:13:21,713 --> 00:13:22,889 - Looking in her window? 373 00:13:22,932 --> 00:13:24,542 A neighbor, an ex? 374 00:13:24,586 --> 00:13:26,414 Find out. 375 00:13:26,457 --> 00:13:30,418 ♪ 376 00:13:30,461 --> 00:13:32,899 - Hey, we're looking for Charlie Dobkins. 377 00:13:32,942 --> 00:13:34,944 - Yeah, he around? 378 00:13:34,988 --> 00:13:36,554 - Check the roof. 379 00:13:36,598 --> 00:13:39,775 - Roof, huh? Thank you. 380 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:46,782 ♪ 381 00:13:46,826 --> 00:13:48,697 Hey, Rollins, I think I got something. 382 00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:50,394 - This looks right into the Harpers' apartment-- 383 00:13:50,438 --> 00:13:52,875 right into Ashley's bedroom. 384 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:54,442 - Uh, I got weed, pills, 385 00:13:54,485 --> 00:13:57,749 hand lotion, Coney Island whitefish... 386 00:13:57,793 --> 00:13:58,881 - Hey. - Underwear, women's jewelry. 387 00:13:58,925 --> 00:14:00,927 - You Charlie? 388 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:02,450 - Hey! 389 00:14:02,493 --> 00:14:03,755 - Damn. 390 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:06,758 [suspenseful music] 391 00:14:06,802 --> 00:14:07,890 - Hey! - Hold up there, chief. 392 00:14:07,934 --> 00:14:08,935 - I didn't do nothing! I didn't! 393 00:14:08,978 --> 00:14:10,371 - No? No? 394 00:14:10,414 --> 00:14:11,851 Then what's this? 395 00:14:17,204 --> 00:14:19,075 - So, Melanie, it looks like, uh, 396 00:14:19,119 --> 00:14:21,773 we found your missing kitchen knife. 397 00:14:21,817 --> 00:14:23,253 - Where? 398 00:14:23,297 --> 00:14:24,820 - On the roof across the street, 399 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:26,996 with the neighbor's kid. 400 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,869 - And he had pictures of Ashley on his phone. 401 00:14:29,912 --> 00:14:33,524 - How well did you and your daughter know him? 402 00:14:33,568 --> 00:14:34,874 - Not well. 403 00:14:34,917 --> 00:14:36,440 I always thought he was a little odd. 404 00:14:36,484 --> 00:14:38,138 - Well, it looks like he was stalking her. 405 00:14:38,181 --> 00:14:40,531 We found a stash on his roof-- 406 00:14:40,575 --> 00:14:42,882 women's jewelry, underwear. 407 00:14:42,925 --> 00:14:45,406 - So it would be helpful if you could identify 408 00:14:45,449 --> 00:14:49,453 anything that--that may have belonged to Ashley. 409 00:14:51,455 --> 00:14:53,283 - Did you find her engagement ring? 410 00:14:53,327 --> 00:14:56,112 - Uh, no, we're looking for it now, though. 411 00:14:56,156 --> 00:14:57,809 - You think he did it? 412 00:14:57,853 --> 00:14:59,246 He's the one that killed Ashley? 413 00:14:59,289 --> 00:15:01,291 - I promise, if he is, we'll find out. 414 00:15:01,335 --> 00:15:03,815 - Come on. Let's go. 415 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:06,253 - I want to call my mom. 416 00:15:06,296 --> 00:15:07,950 - Okay, sure, Charlie. 417 00:15:07,994 --> 00:15:09,430 But first you need to talk to us 418 00:15:09,473 --> 00:15:10,997 about that love nest on your roof. 419 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,259 - And then I can call her? 420 00:15:12,302 --> 00:15:13,564 - One thing at a time, Charlie. 421 00:15:13,608 --> 00:15:15,044 Did you take this picture of Ashley 422 00:15:15,088 --> 00:15:17,090 through her bedroom window? 423 00:15:21,224 --> 00:15:23,226 - She was always standing in front of it, 424 00:15:23,270 --> 00:15:24,924 like she wanted me to see. 425 00:15:24,967 --> 00:15:26,926 - Oh. 426 00:15:26,969 --> 00:15:28,275 - Shyvon said it was wrong. 427 00:15:28,318 --> 00:15:30,146 - Who's Shyvon? 428 00:15:30,190 --> 00:15:32,932 - My girl, the one I-- 429 00:15:32,975 --> 00:15:34,411 use the condoms with. 430 00:15:34,455 --> 00:15:36,936 - So you got two girls, Ashley and Shyvon? 431 00:15:36,979 --> 00:15:38,372 You're a ladies' man? 432 00:15:38,415 --> 00:15:40,374 - Shyvon's my girlfriend. 433 00:15:40,417 --> 00:15:42,854 I just looked at Ashley. 434 00:15:42,898 --> 00:15:44,117 - And you took those photos, right? 435 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,118 - Yeah. 436 00:15:45,161 --> 00:15:46,902 - So what about last night? 437 00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:50,384 She was there posing, looking at you? 438 00:15:50,427 --> 00:15:53,126 Thought, "Maybe she wants to have sex with me?" 439 00:15:53,169 --> 00:15:54,605 Right? 440 00:15:54,649 --> 00:15:55,911 - Do you think so? 441 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:57,478 - Yeah, Charlie, I do. 442 00:15:57,521 --> 00:15:58,870 I mean, why else would she be posing 443 00:15:58,914 --> 00:16:00,350 in front of a window like that? 444 00:16:00,394 --> 00:16:01,917 - I know. It made me crazy. 445 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:03,223 - And then that's what happened, right? 446 00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:04,615 She kept teasing you. 447 00:16:04,659 --> 00:16:06,443 Maybe she wanted you to come over. 448 00:16:06,487 --> 00:16:07,531 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 449 00:16:07,575 --> 00:16:09,577 She definitely liked to tease me. 450 00:16:09,620 --> 00:16:10,839 [chuckles] 451 00:16:12,536 --> 00:16:14,451 - I'm looking for Charlie Dobkins. 452 00:16:14,495 --> 00:16:15,844 He got picked up by detectives. 453 00:16:15,887 --> 00:16:16,845 - Can I help you? 454 00:16:16,888 --> 00:16:18,107 - I'm Charlie's mother. 455 00:16:18,151 --> 00:16:19,282 This is his girlfriend, Shyvon. 456 00:16:19,326 --> 00:16:20,980 - You have to let him go, now. 457 00:16:21,023 --> 00:16:22,503 - Can't do that. He's being questioned. 458 00:16:22,546 --> 00:16:24,113 - Charlie will just say whatever you want, 459 00:16:24,157 --> 00:16:25,332 but he didn't hurt that girl. 460 00:16:25,375 --> 00:16:28,030 - You got proof? 461 00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:29,901 - Just tell him, Shyvon. 462 00:16:29,945 --> 00:16:31,947 - He was with me all night. 463 00:16:36,386 --> 00:16:38,432 - Lieutenant, he was just about to confess. 464 00:16:38,475 --> 00:16:39,563 - Great. 465 00:16:39,607 --> 00:16:40,782 Except he didn't do it. 466 00:16:40,825 --> 00:16:42,218 - Well, the kid admits to watching Ashley, 467 00:16:42,262 --> 00:16:43,393 taking pictures-- 468 00:16:43,437 --> 00:16:44,525 - And getting aroused by her last night. 469 00:16:44,568 --> 00:16:45,917 - He was having sex with his girlfriend 470 00:16:45,961 --> 00:16:47,919 at the time of the murder, and there's video-- 471 00:16:47,963 --> 00:16:49,617 lots of it. 472 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:51,053 - You're crazy, Charlie. 473 00:16:51,097 --> 00:16:53,099 They're gonna see us up here. Yes, they are. 474 00:16:53,142 --> 00:16:55,144 - Girlfriend said they spent the whole night together. 475 00:16:55,188 --> 00:16:57,625 Time code's good-- alibi to 1:15. 476 00:16:57,668 --> 00:17:00,062 There he is having sex, goofing off. 477 00:17:00,106 --> 00:17:01,672 Charlie's on camera the whole time. 478 00:17:01,716 --> 00:17:03,674 - Okay, seen enough. 479 00:17:03,718 --> 00:17:06,416 - Okay, so how'd he get the knife? 480 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:08,070 - Girlfriend says he picked it up off the curb 481 00:17:08,114 --> 00:17:10,116 after he saw the killer toss it. 482 00:17:10,159 --> 00:17:12,161 - So he's not a suspect. He's a witness. 483 00:17:12,205 --> 00:17:13,597 So take him back to that rooftop, 484 00:17:13,641 --> 00:17:15,512 find out exactly where he was, 485 00:17:15,556 --> 00:17:17,949 what he saw, and when he saw it. 486 00:17:19,038 --> 00:17:20,387 - You were standing here, right? 487 00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:22,041 Now tell me-- tell me exactly 488 00:17:22,084 --> 00:17:23,085 who you saw. 489 00:17:23,129 --> 00:17:24,347 - I saw a white man. 490 00:17:24,391 --> 00:17:25,522 - About his age. - Right. 491 00:17:25,566 --> 00:17:27,350 And he dropped something in the trash bags, 492 00:17:27,394 --> 00:17:28,569 and I wanted to know what it was, 493 00:17:28,612 --> 00:17:29,570 so I went down and got it. 494 00:17:29,613 --> 00:17:31,093 - Right, the knife. 495 00:17:31,137 --> 00:17:32,312 Right? That's great, Charlie. 496 00:17:32,355 --> 00:17:33,922 We got that, all right? 497 00:17:33,965 --> 00:17:35,924 So let's--let's think about something else, maybe. 498 00:17:35,967 --> 00:17:37,534 Like, what about the time? 499 00:17:37,578 --> 00:17:40,146 - You said you saw the man after Shyvon got here. 500 00:17:40,189 --> 00:17:41,277 - Yeah. 501 00:17:41,321 --> 00:17:43,062 - Good, now was it before or after 502 00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:45,412 you and Shyvon had sex? 503 00:17:45,455 --> 00:17:47,240 - Before, maybe. 504 00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:48,589 Uh... - I need you to be sure. 505 00:17:48,632 --> 00:17:51,548 You sure? 506 00:17:51,592 --> 00:17:53,507 - After. It was after. 507 00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:54,595 I'm not good with times-- - Okay. 508 00:17:54,638 --> 00:17:55,944 - Befores and afters like that. 509 00:17:55,987 --> 00:17:58,077 - Okay, you know what, Charlie? 510 00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:59,252 I like you, 511 00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:01,950 and I know you want to cooperate, right? 512 00:18:01,993 --> 00:18:04,213 Listen, so I need you to focus. 513 00:18:04,257 --> 00:18:06,172 I'm gonna--I'm gonna show you these pictures 514 00:18:06,215 --> 00:18:07,651 one at a time. 515 00:18:07,695 --> 00:18:10,350 All right, you just-- you let me know who you saw. 516 00:18:10,393 --> 00:18:12,178 - I can do that. - All right. 517 00:18:12,221 --> 00:18:13,962 - Because you want to help Ashley, right? 518 00:18:14,005 --> 00:18:15,137 You liked her. We know you liked her. 519 00:18:15,181 --> 00:18:16,356 - Yes, I did. 520 00:18:16,399 --> 00:18:18,097 - Okay. - She was pretty... 521 00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:20,099 like you. 522 00:18:20,142 --> 00:18:21,535 [chuckles] 523 00:18:23,145 --> 00:18:25,974 - What about this guy? 524 00:18:26,017 --> 00:18:28,194 - Uh, if I say yes, 525 00:18:28,237 --> 00:18:31,066 would--would that be helping Ashley? 526 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:32,459 And you? 527 00:18:35,636 --> 00:18:37,986 - We just want the truth, Charlie. 528 00:18:40,249 --> 00:18:43,731 Okay? That's all we want. 529 00:18:43,774 --> 00:18:46,995 Don't say yes if you're not sure. 530 00:18:52,218 --> 00:18:53,610 It's okay. 531 00:18:53,654 --> 00:18:56,613 - Yes, I'm sure. 532 00:18:56,657 --> 00:18:59,616 [dark music] 533 00:18:59,660 --> 00:19:03,794 ♪ 534 00:19:03,838 --> 00:19:05,622 - Sean Roberts? [banging door] 535 00:19:05,666 --> 00:19:06,797 NYPD. 536 00:19:06,841 --> 00:19:09,148 - Open up. 537 00:19:09,191 --> 00:19:10,279 - This is harassment. 538 00:19:10,323 --> 00:19:11,802 - We need to search the premises. 539 00:19:11,846 --> 00:19:14,283 - You have a warrant? - Yes, we do. 540 00:19:14,327 --> 00:19:20,289 ♪ 541 00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:21,682 - My lawyer will be here any minute, just so you know. 542 00:19:21,725 --> 00:19:23,205 - Yeah, that's your right. 543 00:19:23,249 --> 00:19:25,120 - Got something. 544 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:27,470 Looks like Ashley's diamond ring. 545 00:19:27,514 --> 00:19:30,212 Found it in the sink drain. 546 00:19:30,256 --> 00:19:32,649 ♪ 547 00:19:32,693 --> 00:19:35,652 - How did it get there, Sean? 548 00:19:35,696 --> 00:19:37,045 - I don't know. 549 00:19:37,088 --> 00:19:38,264 - Sean Roberts, you're under arrest 550 00:19:38,307 --> 00:19:40,483 for the rape and murder of Ashley Harper. 551 00:19:40,527 --> 00:19:42,224 - You have the right to remain silent. 552 00:19:42,268 --> 00:19:44,313 You have the right to-- - I know my rights! 553 00:19:44,357 --> 00:19:45,488 I've been through this drill before! 554 00:19:45,532 --> 00:19:47,490 I was innocent then! I'm innocent now! 555 00:19:47,534 --> 00:19:48,535 - All right. 556 00:19:55,411 --> 00:19:57,457 - Buchanan sure swooped in here fast. 557 00:19:57,500 --> 00:19:59,633 - Guy's got a nose for the big cases. 558 00:19:59,676 --> 00:20:00,938 - What did you find? 559 00:20:00,982 --> 00:20:03,332 - Traces of blood on one of his shoes 560 00:20:03,376 --> 00:20:04,507 that could be Ashley's, 561 00:20:04,551 --> 00:20:05,900 and then, of course, there's the ring. 562 00:20:05,943 --> 00:20:07,206 - And you're the one who found it. 563 00:20:07,249 --> 00:20:08,642 - Search warrant, by the book. 564 00:20:08,685 --> 00:20:10,644 - That's right. I was just looking in his sink. 565 00:20:10,687 --> 00:20:12,211 Checked the drain-- there it was. 566 00:20:12,254 --> 00:20:14,778 - And we spoke to Zach, Ashley's fiancé, 567 00:20:14,822 --> 00:20:17,520 who confirmed that it was indeed her ring. 568 00:20:17,564 --> 00:20:20,697 - Good. We have a strong case. 569 00:20:20,741 --> 00:20:23,613 - My client's civil lawyer extends his thanks. 570 00:20:23,657 --> 00:20:25,528 The price tag for his lawsuit just went up-- 571 00:20:25,572 --> 00:20:27,226 for harassment. 572 00:20:27,269 --> 00:20:29,010 - We've got Ashley's engagement ring. 573 00:20:29,053 --> 00:20:31,273 We've got her blood in his apartment and on his shoes. 574 00:20:31,317 --> 00:20:33,449 - But I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation. 575 00:20:33,493 --> 00:20:36,452 - There is: Detective Tutuola. 576 00:20:36,496 --> 00:20:38,237 He's the defendant in Sean's civil suit. 577 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,368 He's the one who found the ring, correct? 578 00:20:39,412 --> 00:20:41,327 - A frame-up, really? That's your defense? 579 00:20:41,370 --> 00:20:43,590 I-I hope you're getting a discount, 580 00:20:43,633 --> 00:20:45,287 because your attorney isn't even trying. 581 00:20:45,331 --> 00:20:47,768 - Sean is not a murderer or a rapist. 582 00:20:47,811 --> 00:20:49,770 He's never even committed a crime. 583 00:20:49,813 --> 00:20:51,685 - You think I would do that to Ashley? 584 00:20:51,728 --> 00:20:53,426 She was nice to me. 585 00:20:53,469 --> 00:20:54,731 She treated me like I was decent-- 586 00:20:54,775 --> 00:20:55,863 like a normal human being. 587 00:20:55,906 --> 00:20:56,994 - You raped and killed her. 588 00:20:57,038 --> 00:20:58,300 It's a hell of a way to thank her. 589 00:20:58,344 --> 00:20:59,345 - I wouldn't do that to her! 590 00:20:59,388 --> 00:21:00,998 I know what it's like to be raped! 591 00:21:01,042 --> 00:21:03,262 I went in when I was 18, 140 pounds. 592 00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:04,350 What do you think happened to me? 593 00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:05,612 - It's all right, Sean. Take it easy. 594 00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:07,004 We're done talking here. 595 00:21:07,048 --> 00:21:08,397 - Okay, then we'll be taking Sean 596 00:21:08,441 --> 00:21:11,008 to be processed and arraigned. 597 00:21:11,052 --> 00:21:12,227 - Okay. 598 00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:14,664 - Is the jury gonna buy this frame story? 599 00:21:14,708 --> 00:21:15,796 - He was innocent last time. 600 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:17,058 The jury's gonna feel sorry for him. 601 00:21:17,101 --> 00:21:18,451 - This case is different. 602 00:21:18,494 --> 00:21:20,627 - Let's hope we get the same verdict. 603 00:21:21,976 --> 00:21:23,630 Ms. Harper. 604 00:21:23,673 --> 00:21:25,066 I'm ADA Rafael Barba. 605 00:21:25,109 --> 00:21:26,981 I'll be handling your daughter's case. 606 00:21:27,024 --> 00:21:29,853 I'm so sorry for your loss. 607 00:21:29,897 --> 00:21:33,379 [somber music] 608 00:21:33,422 --> 00:21:35,032 - I was hoping it was someone else. 609 00:21:35,076 --> 00:21:37,296 - We understand, but the evidence 610 00:21:37,339 --> 00:21:39,298 is what it is. 611 00:21:39,341 --> 00:21:42,692 - I can't imagine what you must be feeling right now. 612 00:21:42,736 --> 00:21:44,564 - You can't do this to me again! 613 00:21:44,607 --> 00:21:47,523 Hey, Detective, do you think I made you look bad? 614 00:21:47,567 --> 00:21:48,916 Is that it? - Sean, enough! 615 00:21:48,959 --> 00:21:50,787 - Is it the lawsuit? Hey, I won't take the money! 616 00:21:50,831 --> 00:21:53,573 Melanie--Melanie, you know I wouldn't hurt Ashley! 617 00:21:53,616 --> 00:21:54,878 Don't let 'em do this! 618 00:21:54,922 --> 00:21:56,750 - [crying] 619 00:21:56,793 --> 00:21:58,447 - It's okay. 620 00:21:58,491 --> 00:22:01,450 ♪ 621 00:22:01,494 --> 00:22:04,410 - Ashley was crying about her fiancé. 622 00:22:04,453 --> 00:22:08,370 So Sean joked that she should leave Zach for him, 623 00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:10,459 that--that he was gonna be a millionaire. 624 00:22:10,503 --> 00:22:11,547 - And how did she respond? 625 00:22:11,591 --> 00:22:12,940 - She was playing along. 626 00:22:12,983 --> 00:22:14,811 She was--she was fine... 627 00:22:14,855 --> 00:22:16,770 [sighs] Until Sean got drunk. 628 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:20,643 And then, uh, he started acting a little stupid. 629 00:22:20,687 --> 00:22:22,471 So Ashley and Melanie left. 630 00:22:22,515 --> 00:22:23,994 - Okay, so how did Sean react? 631 00:22:24,038 --> 00:22:26,475 - He felt bad. 632 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:28,825 Said he wanted to go to her house to apologize. 633 00:22:28,869 --> 00:22:31,785 - Okay, so...Sean liked Ashley? 634 00:22:31,828 --> 00:22:33,526 - Yeah, he really liked her. 635 00:22:33,569 --> 00:22:34,701 He--he thought she was hot. 636 00:22:34,744 --> 00:22:37,617 [chuckles] He thought she liked him too. 637 00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:38,748 - So is that the real reason 638 00:22:38,792 --> 00:22:40,054 that Sean went to Ashley's house? 639 00:22:40,097 --> 00:22:41,534 'Cause he really liked her? 640 00:22:41,577 --> 00:22:43,057 'Cause he thought he was maybe gonna have sex with her? 641 00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:44,580 - Objection. Leading. 642 00:22:44,624 --> 00:22:46,930 - Sustained. - Nothing further. 643 00:22:48,584 --> 00:22:52,806 - So, Sean never told you that, uh, 644 00:22:52,849 --> 00:22:54,285 he thought Ashley liked him 645 00:22:54,329 --> 00:22:57,114 or that he was interested in having sex with her, did he? 646 00:22:57,158 --> 00:22:58,725 - Not exactly. 647 00:22:58,768 --> 00:23:00,727 It just seemed that way. 648 00:23:00,770 --> 00:23:02,206 - So you're a mind-reader. 649 00:23:02,250 --> 00:23:04,861 Any other special powers we should let the jury in on? 650 00:23:04,905 --> 00:23:07,647 - Objection. - Nothing further. 651 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:08,952 Withdrawn. 652 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,740 - Dr. Singh, in your expert opinion, 653 00:23:13,783 --> 00:23:15,481 how difficult is it to transition 654 00:23:15,524 --> 00:23:19,006 from being a wrongfully imprisoned inmate 655 00:23:19,049 --> 00:23:20,834 to a free citizen? 656 00:23:20,877 --> 00:23:22,139 - It's exceptionally hard. 657 00:23:22,183 --> 00:23:23,445 Almost impossible. 658 00:23:23,489 --> 00:23:24,968 - Why is that? 659 00:23:25,012 --> 00:23:27,188 - Exonerees' attempts to reconcile their incarceration 660 00:23:27,231 --> 00:23:30,887 with their innocence can lead to intense suffering. 661 00:23:30,931 --> 00:23:33,499 The trauma they experience is similar to the trauma 662 00:23:33,542 --> 00:23:35,022 suffered by veterans of war, 663 00:23:35,065 --> 00:23:36,066 torture survivors-- 664 00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:38,155 - I'm sorry to interrupt you. 665 00:23:38,199 --> 00:23:41,202 What about an exoneree who has been repeatedly raped in prison? 666 00:23:41,245 --> 00:23:43,726 - Well, these individuals have even a harder time 667 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:45,511 adjusting to life on the outside. 668 00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:48,775 The rage and shame caused by the rape 669 00:23:48,818 --> 00:23:51,168 is unlikely to remain locked in prison. 670 00:23:51,212 --> 00:23:52,822 - Would someone like this have a difficult time 671 00:23:52,866 --> 00:23:55,608 socializing with the opposite sex? 672 00:23:55,651 --> 00:23:57,871 - Dating and sexual relationships 673 00:23:57,914 --> 00:23:59,046 for someone with this profile 674 00:23:59,089 --> 00:24:00,526 are particularly challenging. 675 00:24:00,569 --> 00:24:02,571 They tend to misread social cues 676 00:24:02,615 --> 00:24:04,573 and to act out in violent ways 677 00:24:04,617 --> 00:24:07,097 when they feel rejected or humiliated. 678 00:24:07,141 --> 00:24:08,882 - So in your expert opinion, 679 00:24:08,925 --> 00:24:11,493 a man who'd been wrongfully imprisoned 680 00:24:11,537 --> 00:24:13,147 for 16 years 681 00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:15,192 was a victim of rape... 682 00:24:16,803 --> 00:24:19,153 What is the likelihood that someone like this 683 00:24:19,196 --> 00:24:23,113 would be able to live a normal, law-abiding life upon release? 684 00:24:23,157 --> 00:24:25,551 - Unfortunately, it's almost impossible. 685 00:24:25,594 --> 00:24:27,074 - Thank you. 686 00:24:27,117 --> 00:24:29,119 Nothing further. 687 00:24:31,861 --> 00:24:33,907 - Have you ever met Sean Roberts? 688 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:34,951 - No. 689 00:24:34,995 --> 00:24:36,649 - So your expert opinions 690 00:24:36,692 --> 00:24:38,128 don't apply to him specifically, 691 00:24:38,172 --> 00:24:39,608 do they? 692 00:24:39,652 --> 00:24:43,090 They're based on other exonerees. 693 00:24:43,133 --> 00:24:44,091 - That's right. 694 00:24:44,134 --> 00:24:45,527 - So what you're saying is, 695 00:24:45,571 --> 00:24:47,877 your testimony is totally irrelevant to Sean 696 00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:49,183 and a complete waste of time? 697 00:24:49,226 --> 00:24:52,186 - Objection. - Sustained. 698 00:24:52,229 --> 00:24:54,754 - Nothing further. 699 00:24:54,797 --> 00:24:57,757 [tense music] 700 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,542 ♪ 701 00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:01,761 - Counselor, 702 00:25:01,804 --> 00:25:03,545 where would you like your witness? 703 00:25:03,589 --> 00:25:04,807 - How are you, Charlie? 704 00:25:04,851 --> 00:25:06,113 - Nervous. - All right. 705 00:25:06,156 --> 00:25:07,593 Ah, you'll be fine. 706 00:25:07,636 --> 00:25:08,985 Go have a seat over there. I'll be right with you. 707 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:10,030 - Right there. 708 00:25:12,206 --> 00:25:13,207 - How's he really doing? 709 00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:15,078 - He's okay. A little jittery. 710 00:25:15,122 --> 00:25:17,559 - The thing is, he's-- he's not the brightest bulb, 711 00:25:17,603 --> 00:25:20,170 but if you-- if you take it easy with him, 712 00:25:20,214 --> 00:25:22,216 he'll calm down. 713 00:25:23,565 --> 00:25:25,088 - You haven't been in the gallery. 714 00:25:25,132 --> 00:25:27,569 - Just in case you change your mind and decide to call me. 715 00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:28,788 - You get why I can't, right? 716 00:25:28,831 --> 00:25:30,833 - Well, I get why you think you can't. 717 00:25:30,877 --> 00:25:33,749 The DA put Sean away for 16 years, not me. 718 00:25:33,793 --> 00:25:34,924 I did my job. 719 00:25:34,968 --> 00:25:36,056 I did it right then. 720 00:25:36,099 --> 00:25:37,231 I did it right this time, too. 721 00:25:37,274 --> 00:25:38,624 - I know. 722 00:25:38,667 --> 00:25:40,930 - I just want you to know, I have nothing to hide. 723 00:25:40,974 --> 00:25:42,671 - I believe you. 724 00:25:42,715 --> 00:25:44,804 - Doesn't seem that way. 725 00:25:48,024 --> 00:25:50,636 - My girlfriend and I had just had sex 726 00:25:50,679 --> 00:25:51,811 on the roof, 727 00:25:51,854 --> 00:25:54,117 and that's when I saw Sean Roberts 728 00:25:54,161 --> 00:25:58,078 leave the house and toss something in the trash. 729 00:25:58,121 --> 00:25:59,819 - What time was this? 730 00:25:59,862 --> 00:26:01,037 - 1:15. 731 00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:02,691 - Then what happened? 732 00:26:02,735 --> 00:26:05,215 - I went to see what he tossed. 733 00:26:05,259 --> 00:26:06,652 It was a knife. 734 00:26:06,695 --> 00:26:08,044 I picked it up. 735 00:26:08,088 --> 00:26:11,178 - You saw Sean Roberts leave the Harper residence 736 00:26:11,221 --> 00:26:14,007 at 1:15 and throw a knife in the trash? 737 00:26:14,050 --> 00:26:15,574 - Yes. 738 00:26:15,617 --> 00:26:16,662 - Okay. 739 00:26:16,705 --> 00:26:17,837 The knife has been previously entered 740 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,318 as People's Exhibit A. 741 00:26:21,362 --> 00:26:23,712 The same knife has been determined to have 742 00:26:23,756 --> 00:26:25,845 Ashley's blood on it. 743 00:26:32,242 --> 00:26:34,331 - Hello, Charlie. 744 00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:37,944 So, you had a fun time on the roof with your girlfriend. 745 00:26:37,987 --> 00:26:39,336 Lucky you. 746 00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:41,034 Can I ask you something? 747 00:26:41,077 --> 00:26:44,907 Had you been smoking pot or drinking alcohol? 748 00:26:46,126 --> 00:26:48,215 - [laughs] We smoked a little weed. 749 00:26:48,258 --> 00:26:50,304 - So, high on marijuana, 750 00:26:50,347 --> 00:26:52,872 through the black of night at 1:15 in the morning, 751 00:26:52,915 --> 00:26:54,656 you're absolutely positive 752 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:57,790 you saw Sean Roberts down on the street? 753 00:26:57,833 --> 00:26:59,052 - I think so. 754 00:26:59,095 --> 00:27:00,662 It looked like him. 755 00:27:00,706 --> 00:27:03,709 Plus, Detective Rollins, uh-- 756 00:27:03,752 --> 00:27:06,407 uh, yeah, I'm positive. 757 00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:08,975 - Plus Detective Rollins? 758 00:27:09,018 --> 00:27:12,108 Did she tell you to say something? 759 00:27:12,152 --> 00:27:14,067 - No, not really. 760 00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:16,243 I said I thought I saw Sean's face. 761 00:27:16,286 --> 00:27:19,942 - And she encouraged you to say it was Sean? 762 00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:22,684 Maybe she nodded or smiled. 763 00:27:22,728 --> 00:27:25,295 - She patted me on the shoulder 764 00:27:25,339 --> 00:27:27,776 and told me it was okay. 765 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:29,778 I thought she wanted me to say it was him. 766 00:27:29,822 --> 00:27:33,869 - Did she help you figure out what time you saw him, too? 767 00:27:33,913 --> 00:27:34,870 ♪ 768 00:27:34,914 --> 00:27:36,089 - I guess. 769 00:27:36,132 --> 00:27:37,743 I-I... 770 00:27:37,786 --> 00:27:40,354 I wasn't sure if I saw Sean 771 00:27:40,397 --> 00:27:43,662 leave before or after Shyvon and I had sex. 772 00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:45,185 But she-- - She what? 773 00:27:45,228 --> 00:27:46,665 - Sh-- 774 00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:48,797 ♪ 775 00:27:48,841 --> 00:27:50,103 Sh-- 776 00:27:50,146 --> 00:27:52,845 ♪ 777 00:27:52,888 --> 00:27:54,760 - I know she's attractive. 778 00:27:54,803 --> 00:27:58,285 But don't look to her for help. 779 00:27:58,328 --> 00:28:00,026 Look at me, Charlie. 780 00:28:00,069 --> 00:28:02,724 Why did you say what you did? 781 00:28:02,768 --> 00:28:04,247 ♪ 782 00:28:04,291 --> 00:28:07,337 - I thought she would like it if I said after. 783 00:28:07,381 --> 00:28:08,425 And she was really nice. 784 00:28:08,469 --> 00:28:11,690 - So Detective Rollins encouraged you-- 785 00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:12,734 flirted with you-- 786 00:28:12,778 --> 00:28:14,736 to say you had seen Sean Roberts 787 00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:16,869 leave Ashley's home at 1:15? 788 00:28:16,912 --> 00:28:18,305 - Objection: Mr. Buchanan is putting words 789 00:28:18,348 --> 00:28:19,306 in this witness's mouth. 790 00:28:19,349 --> 00:28:21,482 - Overruled. Answer the question. 791 00:28:21,525 --> 00:28:22,788 - No. 792 00:28:22,831 --> 00:28:25,225 I just wanted her to like me. 793 00:28:25,268 --> 00:28:27,967 And she needed to solve her case. 794 00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:29,708 - So Detective Rollins encouraged you 795 00:28:29,751 --> 00:28:31,100 to see Sean Roberts, 796 00:28:31,144 --> 00:28:33,363 then you made her happy by saying you had seen him 797 00:28:33,407 --> 00:28:35,104 at 1:15 exactly? 798 00:28:35,148 --> 00:28:37,498 - That's a good way of saying it. 799 00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:39,065 - [scoffs] 800 00:28:39,108 --> 00:28:43,722 ♪ 801 00:28:43,765 --> 00:28:45,724 Nothing further. 802 00:28:45,767 --> 00:28:51,730 ♪ 803 00:28:56,604 --> 00:28:58,562 - We got a guy on trial who was wrongfully convicted 804 00:28:58,606 --> 00:28:59,738 on bad eyewitness testimony, 805 00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:01,348 and you don't tell me that the kid waffled 806 00:29:01,391 --> 00:29:02,523 on the ID or the time. 807 00:29:02,566 --> 00:29:03,698 - He waffled. He did not lie. 808 00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:05,134 There is a big difference. 809 00:29:05,178 --> 00:29:06,309 - Now you're parsing degrees of deceit. 810 00:29:06,353 --> 00:29:07,833 - Listen, Buchanan is gonna turn this 811 00:29:07,876 --> 00:29:09,617 into you manipulating the kid 812 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:10,618 to defend Fin. 813 00:29:10,661 --> 00:29:12,054 - Charlie's telling the truth. 814 00:29:12,098 --> 00:29:14,317 He saw Sean leave the house, 815 00:29:14,361 --> 00:29:16,842 toss the knife after he and his girlfriend had sex, 816 00:29:16,885 --> 00:29:19,279 which was around 1:15 or so. That's the truth. 817 00:29:19,322 --> 00:29:21,237 I can't help it if the kid has a crush on me, or-- 818 00:29:21,281 --> 00:29:22,369 - Hold on, so you were aware 819 00:29:22,412 --> 00:29:23,587 that he had an affection for you-- 820 00:29:23,631 --> 00:29:25,241 that he had a desire to make you happy? 821 00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:26,547 - Lieutenant, listen. I was there, all right? 822 00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:28,157 Rollins didn't lead him. 823 00:29:28,201 --> 00:29:29,680 - Don't make excuses for her. That's not what the jury thinks. 824 00:29:29,724 --> 00:29:31,073 - Oh, come on. You know what, Counselor? 825 00:29:31,117 --> 00:29:32,422 It's not Rollins's fault 826 00:29:32,466 --> 00:29:34,207 that Buchanan spun that kid upside-down 827 00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:35,338 and you didn't know how to stop him. 828 00:29:35,382 --> 00:29:37,079 - Okay, thank you. We're done. 829 00:29:44,391 --> 00:29:46,175 - [sighs] 830 00:29:46,219 --> 00:29:47,437 - Okay. 831 00:29:47,481 --> 00:29:49,744 So where do we go from here? 832 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:52,181 - They're not gonna convict on Charlie's testimony. 833 00:29:52,225 --> 00:29:54,227 Not anymore. 834 00:29:54,270 --> 00:29:56,795 We need to double down on the physical evidence. 835 00:29:56,838 --> 00:29:59,710 - How do we do that? 836 00:30:03,192 --> 00:30:05,891 - I entered the defendant's apartment with several officers 837 00:30:05,934 --> 00:30:07,588 and we began a search. 838 00:30:07,631 --> 00:30:08,850 I looked in the sink. 839 00:30:08,894 --> 00:30:10,547 I stuck a pencil in the drain 840 00:30:10,591 --> 00:30:12,288 and pulled out the diamond ring. 841 00:30:12,332 --> 00:30:13,463 - How many of the police officers 842 00:30:13,507 --> 00:30:14,595 were present at that time? 843 00:30:14,638 --> 00:30:16,727 - At any given time, six to ten. 844 00:30:16,771 --> 00:30:17,772 - Okay. 845 00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:21,167 Detective Tutuola, um... 846 00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:22,603 how do you know Sean Roberts? 847 00:30:22,646 --> 00:30:24,910 - I arrested him for rape 16 years ago. 848 00:30:24,953 --> 00:30:26,433 - He was found innocent of that crime 849 00:30:26,476 --> 00:30:28,696 and released from prison a month ago. 850 00:30:28,739 --> 00:30:30,219 Does that bother you? 851 00:30:30,263 --> 00:30:31,438 - Sure it does. 852 00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:33,614 But we went with the evidence we had. 853 00:30:33,657 --> 00:30:35,268 - Do you have, um, any kind of-- 854 00:30:35,311 --> 00:30:37,313 I don't know--grudge, vendetta 855 00:30:37,357 --> 00:30:38,793 against the defendant? 856 00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:39,925 - I do now he killed Ash. 857 00:30:39,968 --> 00:30:42,188 - Objection! - Sustained. 858 00:30:42,231 --> 00:30:44,843 Please refrain from drawing conclusions, Detective. 859 00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:45,887 - Yeah, I'm sorry. 860 00:30:45,931 --> 00:30:47,628 I mean, honestly, 861 00:30:47,671 --> 00:30:49,456 I have no grudges against the man. 862 00:30:49,499 --> 00:30:50,936 If anything, I was rooting for him 863 00:30:50,979 --> 00:30:53,242 when he got out. 864 00:30:53,286 --> 00:30:55,157 - Thank you. Nothing further. 865 00:30:57,246 --> 00:30:59,640 - You must be embarrassed about putting an innocent man 866 00:30:59,683 --> 00:31:01,511 in prison for 16 years. 867 00:31:01,555 --> 00:31:02,817 - I didn't put him there. 868 00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:04,297 I just arrested him. 869 00:31:04,340 --> 00:31:05,646 And no, I'm not embarrassed. 870 00:31:05,689 --> 00:31:06,865 I just did my job. 871 00:31:06,908 --> 00:31:07,953 - You say you're not embarrassed, 872 00:31:07,996 --> 00:31:10,912 even though convicting an innocent man 873 00:31:10,956 --> 00:31:14,176 obviously reflects poorly on you as a police officer. 874 00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:15,830 Your job is to arrest guilty people, 875 00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:16,875 not innocent ones. 876 00:31:16,918 --> 00:31:18,180 - That's correct. 877 00:31:18,224 --> 00:31:19,660 But it doesn't always go that way. 878 00:31:19,703 --> 00:31:20,922 That's just the way it is. 879 00:31:20,966 --> 00:31:22,489 - Right. 880 00:31:22,532 --> 00:31:24,186 It's just the way it is. 881 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:26,275 So given what's transpired, 882 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:28,364 you'd obviously feel better about yourself, 883 00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:30,845 your reputation, the department's reputation, 884 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:34,457 if Sean was found guilty of this crime, right? 885 00:31:34,501 --> 00:31:35,850 It would be vindication. 886 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:38,592 You've buried an innocent man, 887 00:31:38,635 --> 00:31:40,507 but that's no big deal, 888 00:31:40,550 --> 00:31:41,943 because he's a criminal. 889 00:31:41,987 --> 00:31:44,380 - And like I said before, I did my job right then 890 00:31:44,424 --> 00:31:45,381 and now. 891 00:31:45,425 --> 00:31:46,687 - By doing your job right, 892 00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:49,646 do you mean framing Sean Roberts again? 893 00:31:49,690 --> 00:31:51,997 - Objection! 894 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,607 - Withdrawn. 895 00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:56,610 [tense music] 896 00:31:56,653 --> 00:31:59,656 ♪ 897 00:32:01,006 --> 00:32:02,485 - How'd it go? 898 00:32:02,529 --> 00:32:04,574 - [sighs] As well as it could have. 899 00:32:04,618 --> 00:32:07,403 Jury looks at a guy who was put away innocent, 900 00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:08,404 they hesitate. 901 00:32:08,448 --> 00:32:09,492 - They should. 902 00:32:09,536 --> 00:32:10,711 - Not this time, Melanie. 903 00:32:10,754 --> 00:32:12,887 He's guilty. There's no question about this. 904 00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:16,325 - No, but that's what you said last time. 905 00:32:16,369 --> 00:32:18,327 None of us saw what happened. 906 00:32:18,371 --> 00:32:19,589 I mean, if you really think about it, I mean, 907 00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:21,330 we're all just-- we're just guessing. 908 00:32:21,374 --> 00:32:23,506 We're just filling in the blanks and-- 909 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:24,812 and connecting the dots. 910 00:32:24,855 --> 00:32:27,336 - I found Ashley's ring in his drain. 911 00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:28,729 How else could it have gotten there? 912 00:32:28,772 --> 00:32:30,426 - According to Sean's lawyer-- 913 00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:32,559 - I did not plant that ring, okay? 914 00:32:32,602 --> 00:32:33,734 Why would I? 915 00:32:33,777 --> 00:32:36,476 Think about it. 916 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:38,565 - I'm sorry, I'm just-- 917 00:32:38,608 --> 00:32:40,523 I was just-- I was so sure last time, 918 00:32:40,567 --> 00:32:43,613 and then I was wrong, and I just-- 919 00:32:43,657 --> 00:32:46,442 I just can't trust myself. 920 00:32:46,486 --> 00:32:49,010 - Did you hear Sean and Ashley speaking that night? 921 00:32:49,054 --> 00:32:51,012 Yes or no? 922 00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:53,319 ♪ 923 00:32:53,362 --> 00:32:54,407 - I'm not sure now. 924 00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:55,712 - That's not what you told me 925 00:32:55,756 --> 00:32:57,540 that night at the crime scene. 926 00:32:57,584 --> 00:32:59,760 No one's asking you to say if he's guilty. 927 00:32:59,803 --> 00:33:03,024 That's the jury's job, not yours. 928 00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:06,071 - He already served 16 years. 929 00:33:06,114 --> 00:33:08,812 What if I'm wrong again? 930 00:33:08,856 --> 00:33:11,772 ♪ 931 00:33:11,815 --> 00:33:13,252 - What do you mean, she won't testify? 932 00:33:13,295 --> 00:33:15,776 - She told me she's not sure she heard Sean's voice-- 933 00:33:15,819 --> 00:33:17,343 not anymore. 934 00:33:17,386 --> 00:33:18,605 - What the hell did you say to her? 935 00:33:18,648 --> 00:33:19,693 - You putting this on me? 936 00:33:19,736 --> 00:33:21,042 - You're the last person she talked to. 937 00:33:21,086 --> 00:33:22,609 - Hold on. 938 00:33:22,652 --> 00:33:23,914 Fin was trying to help. 939 00:33:23,958 --> 00:33:26,961 It's not his fault that she got cold feet. 940 00:33:27,005 --> 00:33:28,658 - I feel for her. I really do. 941 00:33:28,702 --> 00:33:30,356 But she needs to testify. 942 00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:31,661 After the Charlie debacle, 943 00:33:31,705 --> 00:33:33,446 she's the only one who can put Sean at the scene. 944 00:33:33,489 --> 00:33:34,751 - She won't cooperate. 945 00:33:34,795 --> 00:33:36,623 - Then I'll have to call her as a hostile witness 946 00:33:36,666 --> 00:33:39,017 and compel her testimony. 947 00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:40,105 - [sighs] - Look, guys. 948 00:33:40,148 --> 00:33:41,758 This isn't about Melanie. 949 00:33:41,802 --> 00:33:43,499 It's about her daughter. 950 00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:46,328 We need to get justice for her-- 951 00:33:46,372 --> 00:33:49,331 with or without cooperation. 952 00:33:49,375 --> 00:33:52,378 ♪ 953 00:33:56,469 --> 00:33:58,384 - I told you, I don't want to do this. 954 00:33:58,427 --> 00:33:59,341 - Permission to treat the witness 955 00:33:59,385 --> 00:34:00,342 as hostile, Your Honor? 956 00:34:00,386 --> 00:34:01,517 - Permission granted. Proceed. 957 00:34:01,561 --> 00:34:03,563 You must answer the questions, Ms. Harper. 958 00:34:05,695 --> 00:34:09,090 - The night of your daughter's rape and murder, 959 00:34:09,134 --> 00:34:11,223 you heard the defendant's voice in your house. 960 00:34:11,266 --> 00:34:14,443 He was talking to Ashley around midnight. 961 00:34:14,487 --> 00:34:15,879 He was talking to Ashley around midnight-- 962 00:34:15,923 --> 00:34:17,316 I can show you the police report 963 00:34:17,359 --> 00:34:18,404 to help refresh your memory. 964 00:34:18,447 --> 00:34:19,448 - Okay, okay, yes. 965 00:34:19,492 --> 00:34:21,537 I... 966 00:34:21,581 --> 00:34:22,712 I heard Sean's voice. 967 00:34:22,756 --> 00:34:25,193 I...well, I thought I did, anyway. 968 00:34:25,237 --> 00:34:26,629 I'm--I'm not sure now. 969 00:34:26,673 --> 00:34:29,502 - You were sure then-- sure enough to tell the police. 970 00:34:30,503 --> 00:34:33,375 - I don't think that Sean 971 00:34:33,419 --> 00:34:35,247 would kill Ashley. 972 00:34:35,290 --> 00:34:37,553 He cared about her. 973 00:34:37,597 --> 00:34:38,815 He had his whole future ahead of him. 974 00:34:38,859 --> 00:34:40,687 - And yet you said you heard his voice 975 00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:42,732 in your house the night of the murder. 976 00:34:42,776 --> 00:34:43,864 - Well, yes, I said that, but-- 977 00:34:43,907 --> 00:34:45,170 - But you didn't hear him leave, 978 00:34:45,213 --> 00:34:46,693 and you didn't hear anyone else come in. 979 00:34:46,736 --> 00:34:49,696 - No, but that's what I thought last time, 980 00:34:49,739 --> 00:34:52,568 and I was wrong. 981 00:34:52,612 --> 00:34:56,311 What I did to Sean was unforgivable. 982 00:34:57,486 --> 00:34:59,184 I told the jury he did it. 983 00:34:59,227 --> 00:35:01,621 I pointed at him, and I said, 984 00:35:01,664 --> 00:35:03,623 "That's the man who raped me." 985 00:35:03,666 --> 00:35:05,233 And I was wrong. 986 00:35:05,277 --> 00:35:06,887 - That's why you're hesitant to identify him now-- 987 00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:08,454 because if you were wrong then, 988 00:35:08,497 --> 00:35:09,759 you might be wrong again now. 989 00:35:09,803 --> 00:35:11,500 - If Sean was there, then that would mean-- 990 00:35:11,544 --> 00:35:12,588 - That means he killed her. 991 00:35:12,632 --> 00:35:13,589 Is that what you were about to say? 992 00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,504 - Objection! - Let me rephrase. 993 00:35:15,548 --> 00:35:18,333 Ms. Harper, you blame yourself 994 00:35:18,377 --> 00:35:20,161 for your daughter's death, don't you? 995 00:35:20,205 --> 00:35:21,510 - Excuse me? 996 00:35:21,554 --> 00:35:25,253 - You caused Ashley's death. 997 00:35:25,297 --> 00:35:26,515 [tense music] 998 00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:28,691 You sent him to prison, 999 00:35:28,735 --> 00:35:31,433 where he was victimized and abused for 16 years. 1000 00:35:31,477 --> 00:35:34,828 Thanks to you, he learned how to become a killer and a rapist. 1001 00:35:34,871 --> 00:35:37,439 - Objection--is there a question anywhere here? 1002 00:35:37,483 --> 00:35:38,527 - Get to the point, Mr. Barba. 1003 00:35:38,571 --> 00:35:40,442 - The point is, if you had not 1004 00:35:40,486 --> 00:35:41,748 made that false identification 1005 00:35:41,791 --> 00:35:43,402 16 years ago, 1006 00:35:43,445 --> 00:35:45,186 he never would've gone to prison, 1007 00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:47,449 which means he never would've killed Ashley. 1008 00:35:47,493 --> 00:35:48,842 - That's not true. 1009 00:35:48,885 --> 00:35:50,278 - That's not true, or you don't want it to be true? 1010 00:35:50,322 --> 00:35:51,671 Because, in your mind, 1011 00:35:51,714 --> 00:35:53,281 if he killed Ashley, 1012 00:35:53,325 --> 00:35:55,675 you killed her. 1013 00:35:55,718 --> 00:35:57,981 And that's too painful to accept. 1014 00:35:58,025 --> 00:36:00,462 ♪ 1015 00:36:00,506 --> 00:36:03,465 That's why you don't want to testify. 1016 00:36:03,509 --> 00:36:10,516 ♪ 1017 00:36:12,953 --> 00:36:14,955 - [crying] 1018 00:36:16,826 --> 00:36:18,785 I-I sent him there. 1019 00:36:18,828 --> 00:36:21,440 ♪ 1020 00:36:21,483 --> 00:36:24,312 Every time he was 1021 00:36:24,356 --> 00:36:27,924 beaten or raped, 1022 00:36:27,968 --> 00:36:30,623 it was my fault. 1023 00:36:30,666 --> 00:36:32,364 I turned him into a rapist-- 1024 00:36:32,407 --> 00:36:35,758 a monster. 1025 00:36:35,802 --> 00:36:38,848 And it was my fault. 1026 00:36:38,892 --> 00:36:41,851 I'm the-- I'm the guilty one here. 1027 00:36:41,895 --> 00:36:46,595 ♪ 1028 00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:49,729 - To feel this guilty, 1029 00:36:49,772 --> 00:36:53,863 you obviously believe he killed your daughter. 1030 00:36:53,907 --> 00:36:56,344 Which means you are certain 1031 00:36:56,388 --> 00:36:58,346 you heard Sean's voice in your house 1032 00:36:58,390 --> 00:37:01,262 the night of the murder, around midnight. 1033 00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:03,351 Correct? 1034 00:37:03,395 --> 00:37:08,356 ♪ 1035 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,358 - Yes. 1036 00:37:10,402 --> 00:37:17,496 ♪ 1037 00:37:29,377 --> 00:37:32,554 - Unpleasant and tragic, but well done. 1038 00:37:32,598 --> 00:37:35,905 - Let's hope the jury thinks so, too. 1039 00:37:35,949 --> 00:37:38,778 - Looks like Buchanan got the message. 1040 00:37:39,779 --> 00:37:40,736 - Mr. Barba? 1041 00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:41,868 - Mm-hmm? 1042 00:37:41,911 --> 00:37:44,044 - I am open to discussing a plea. 1043 00:37:44,087 --> 00:37:46,046 - It's too late. 1044 00:37:46,089 --> 00:37:49,092 - We'll plead guilty to manslaughter. 1045 00:37:49,136 --> 00:37:51,660 - He serves five years 1046 00:37:51,704 --> 00:37:53,053 for a brutal rape and murder? 1047 00:37:53,096 --> 00:37:54,054 Don't waste my time. 1048 00:37:54,097 --> 00:37:55,882 - Wasted time? 1049 00:37:55,925 --> 00:37:57,579 Ask Sean about that. 1050 00:37:57,623 --> 00:37:58,928 16 years of it. 1051 00:37:58,972 --> 00:38:01,540 If he serves five, that's 21 years. 1052 00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:06,545 You want to roll the dice with the jury, go ahead. 1053 00:38:10,113 --> 00:38:12,028 - Murder two. 1054 00:38:12,072 --> 00:38:15,858 He serves a minimum of 15 years. 1055 00:38:15,902 --> 00:38:19,340 - Done. - And he allocutes. 1056 00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:23,431 Everybody needs to know that we got it right this time. 1057 00:38:23,475 --> 00:38:26,434 [somber music] 1058 00:38:26,478 --> 00:38:30,525 ♪ 1059 00:38:30,569 --> 00:38:32,614 - Sean Roberts, your lawyer tells me 1060 00:38:32,658 --> 00:38:33,963 you'd like to plead guilty. 1061 00:38:34,007 --> 00:38:36,923 Is that correct? 1062 00:38:36,966 --> 00:38:38,098 - Yes, Your Honor. 1063 00:38:38,141 --> 00:38:39,795 - Do you make this plea knowingly 1064 00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:41,797 and voluntarily? 1065 00:38:41,841 --> 00:38:43,930 ♪ 1066 00:38:43,973 --> 00:38:44,931 - I do. 1067 00:38:44,974 --> 00:38:46,062 - Has anyone induced you 1068 00:38:46,106 --> 00:38:47,890 or coerced you in any way 1069 00:38:47,934 --> 00:38:50,502 into pleading guilty? 1070 00:38:50,545 --> 00:38:51,851 - No, Your Honor. 1071 00:38:51,894 --> 00:38:56,377 - I understand you'd like to make a statement. 1072 00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:58,379 Proceed. 1073 00:38:58,423 --> 00:39:05,168 ♪ 1074 00:39:05,212 --> 00:39:06,866 - Melanie... 1075 00:39:10,086 --> 00:39:13,046 I'm so, so sorry. 1076 00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:14,482 ♪ 1077 00:39:14,526 --> 00:39:17,790 I know how much you loved Ashley. 1078 00:39:17,833 --> 00:39:19,618 ♪ 1079 00:39:19,661 --> 00:39:22,447 But I cared about her, too. 1080 00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:24,840 ♪ 1081 00:39:24,884 --> 00:39:28,191 She gave me hope I could start over. 1082 00:39:28,235 --> 00:39:30,106 She wasn't afraid 1083 00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:32,718 to be alone with me. 1084 00:39:32,761 --> 00:39:34,850 She didn't look at me like I was dirt, 1085 00:39:34,894 --> 00:39:38,506 like everyone else. 1086 00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:41,857 Then that night, I was drunk. 1087 00:39:41,901 --> 00:39:43,685 ♪ 1088 00:39:43,729 --> 00:39:45,557 I wasn't used to that. 1089 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,429 I went over there to talk to her, 1090 00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:50,431 to say I was sorry 1091 00:39:50,475 --> 00:39:52,999 for how I acted at dinner. 1092 00:39:53,042 --> 00:39:54,653 ♪ 1093 00:39:54,696 --> 00:39:58,657 And I told her how much I liked her... 1094 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:03,009 ♪ 1095 00:40:03,052 --> 00:40:06,012 And she just sort of laughed. 1096 00:40:06,055 --> 00:40:10,669 ♪ 1097 00:40:10,712 --> 00:40:12,671 And that was it. 1098 00:40:12,714 --> 00:40:15,935 - [crying softly] 1099 00:40:15,978 --> 00:40:19,460 - You can't let people laugh at you. 1100 00:40:19,504 --> 00:40:23,508 16 years, that's what I learned. 1101 00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:27,076 Things happened to me in prison... 1102 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,210 things I swore I'd never do to anyone else-- 1103 00:40:30,253 --> 00:40:32,517 I ended up doing to Ashley. 1104 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,608 I didn't want to do it. 1105 00:40:36,651 --> 00:40:38,740 It just happened. 1106 00:40:38,784 --> 00:40:45,791 ♪ 1107 00:40:56,018 --> 00:40:57,455 - Melanie. 1108 00:41:00,849 --> 00:41:03,809 I'm sorry. 1109 00:41:03,852 --> 00:41:05,158 - I know. 1110 00:41:09,249 --> 00:41:14,123 At least I know he did it this time. 1111 00:41:14,167 --> 00:41:17,562 - It's not your fault. 1112 00:41:17,605 --> 00:41:20,782 - Then whose is it? 1113 00:41:20,826 --> 00:41:27,833 ♪ 1114 00:41:40,628 --> 00:41:41,934 - How are you? 1115 00:41:41,977 --> 00:41:44,197 - I'm good. 1116 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,679 Bad guy went down. That's all that matters. 1117 00:41:49,028 --> 00:41:51,987 - Well, if you ever feel like talking... 1118 00:41:52,031 --> 00:41:54,207 - Talking's overrated. 1119 00:41:56,209 --> 00:41:59,647 - Justice sure isn't pretty some days. 1120 00:41:59,691 --> 00:42:03,042 - Damn ugly this time. 1121 00:42:03,085 --> 00:42:06,698 ♪